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Issues


Old Hell Page (Discussed and Resolved)

Recently, a user has created several pages in good faith. These pages are: Tall Rock(Weiss Hideout), Old Hell and East Fortress Greda. After a while, another contributor asked that the pages be removed and merged with New Hell and Vintage. Please vote in the sections below. Supporting this would mean supporting the merging of the pages, opposing the opposite, and neutral means no decision/can't decide. Please sign your vote with your signature, as well as give a reason.

Should the East Fortress Greda and the Tall Rock (Weiss Hideout) be...
 
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The poll was created at 14:18 on April 16, 2012, and so far 30 people voted.

Support

  • East Fortress Greda and Tall Rock are stub articles. They themselves would probably remain as stubs since there is infomation enough only for a small chapter. It would be better if they are placed in the New Hell pages and Vintage pages respectively.

~~Agent M 4:21, April 16, 2012 (UTC)~~

  • Just like Agent M, I believe that these pages are a smaller part of "Vintage", and won't find much more significance than they do now. GreenMoriyama (talk) 03:07, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • (Just found out disscussion page) Similary to MB, I do agree that by adding those small articles, it would be better. Also, I can clearly see that the articles looked a little...out of the wiki...=3= Sorry if I'm a little harsh that's just my POV as a semi-contributor and a viewer.. ~~ Master P-man 13:39, April 17, 2012 (UTC) ~~

Neutral

  • I honestly don't mind which way the pages are presented; I will not support either side unless there is an opinion that I believe in. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~
  • I don't want everyone to think that I'm a braggart, so I will be signing in Neutral Viciou 14:27, April 16, 2012 (UTC) Viciou(Vi-Kyu)

Oppose

  • Well, I re sign up just to do this. Check this one or this, this and this. My question is quite simple: why is this page is the only page were merged?

BTW, why is the Vintage page has a "Location" tag on it?TNT8clone 17:36, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

  • @Viciou - You can sign oppose; it isn't braggartry to state your own opinion. Besides, a community that all has the same opinion can't improve; there's an advantage to different views.

@Shiyu- I think that a clear-majority threshold would be 2 votes to 1 (if TNT decides to vote, you need a 3 to 2 or more advantage). I'm not sure how the voting system should work, as you need to calculate how many people will regularly vote, and predict how many could vote. I'm still considering a poll vote, but that would allow for quite a bit of sockpuppetry. [edit] - And as soon as I say that, I notice there already is a poll function...well, the poll will give a general idea, but the votes are counted in the support/neutral/oppose officially. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

@all: I don't participate on this voting. So if there are any vote anom, delete it. Thank you. TNT8clone 17:36, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

@TNT: I'm still very confused as to why you insist on being anonymous, as your account is not disabled, and anonymous editing does not benifit you in any way. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

@Demise: Which account? Beside I only register an account when I want to stay long term on the wiki. TNT8clone 17:36, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Your account is not toggle-able: you can't actually turn it off and on. Also, your logic isn't the best; as your account still works, and you just aren't using it, meaning that you are just hindering yourself for no real reason. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

@Demise: Like I said, which account of mine still work? The TNT82 account have already been disabled. The other one have been blocked. Beside, you can saw that I didn't participated in any major wiki work, so what's the point?

  • 1. Sorry, I didn't see the notice, as it isn't on the User page, but on the Contribs page. You do understand that Wikia won't actually remove the disable after, right? The account didn't need to be disabled, and now you've gone ahead and disabled your sister's too.

2. The whole IP thing is very confusing, and hard to keep track of. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

@Demise: Ok, I will create one clone account then. TNT8clone 17:36, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Please consult me next time before you choose to close accounts, I can sort stuff out so that you can't edit, but can view stuff -_-' You kind of removed your account permanently and wasted all those edits and stuff. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

Oh, try Special:Contact to see if you can get the accounts back. They may re-enable it if you tell them you didn't know. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

Nah...... I will create another one. Those edits are just a number, they aren't important to me. TNT8clone 17:36, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

That's a very good outlook you have there. Also, I will have to perma-ban your old account so that it does not appear on the leaderboard (as it will cause confusion if there are two TNTs on it). Is that ok with you? ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

@Demise: I'm fine with that. You are an admin after all. TNT8clone 17:36, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Please, none of this "admin" stuff. I'm tired of heirachial statuses. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~


Okay....the current results thus far seems to be in my favor... ~~Agent M ! 14:51, April 17, 2012 (UTC) ~~

  • 1. Please don't add a delete item category: use the {{Delete tag instead.

2. This is for future reference, but add the tag after you've done copying the content please. Sorry for complaining, ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

Okay. Noted Agent M ! 15:08, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • @TNT : For your page links of softhouse collie, Mijima Road and others, this is exactly my point. I'm not even aware of their existence in the wiki until today. ~~ Agent M ! 10:59, April 18, 2012 (UTC) ~~


I agree with TNT's idea even though I'm saying this when the results are already conducted. Why is Inazumart, Wai Wai Road, etc. are not merged with Maijima City? And, this discussion is already close, damn. Viciou 11:59, April 18, 2012 (UTC) Vi-Kyu

Alright, the discussion is closed for now. Shiyu, contact me when the new pages have been merged, and I'll delete them. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

@Demise : You mean the pages TNT linked ? ~~Agent M ! 14:18, April 18, 2012 (UTC)~~


Discussion Only issues

These issues have not reached a turning point, and do not require a vote.

Policy overhaul

Over-protective Administrators

Too much power (?)

P-man leaving the FB page (Green took over as admin)

The Main Page

The Main Page should be the update with the current admin the direct link to the Rules. The main page will be the first place that anon or new user enter not the Wiki Activity - so put the Rules and the Admins in charge there are pretty much useless.

Discussion

  • Normally, these issues would not be large enough to need public forums to sort it out, but this will clearly affect the wiki's ability to function if left be. I propose that these problems be sorted out. (oh, and remember to sign your posts guys) ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

Well....do we know why did TNT quit ? ~~Agent M 09:27, April 13, 2012 (UTC)~~

I believe he intended on quitting for some time, or atleast resign for a while.... GreenMoriyama (talk) 09:31, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Well, at least we do know the reason for TNT's temporary break. And the Arc pages have been on haitus ~~Agent M 04:02, April 14, 2012 (UTC)~~

Why are the Arc pages on hiatus? ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

Not sure....but from what I heard from Green, they are on haitus at least until TNT comes back ? ~~Agent M 13:11, April 16, 2012 (UTC)~~

"Someone" asked to finish the Keima sandbox, atleast, before resuming the arc pages. I believe that it is true that we have let that page wait too long. Understood? GreenMoriyama (talk) 03:10, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Until the Keima and other Character page fully update, there won't be any edits to the Arc page. TNT8clone 17:22, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Some question.

  • Why do we need this one below?

http://kaminomi.wikia.com/wiki/New-Hell_Broom

  • BTW, can someone delete this ?

I'm moe and I know it 17:48, April 26, 2012 (UTC)


Because Vicou made the original page. So i figure I might as well make the page more fabulous. Besides, if I keep complaining, Vicou may be sad... :( AND :

Y U NO TELL THIS TO DEMISE OR GREEN ?!

-AGENT M !


  • Is that article meet the standard of the wiki? If not then I will add it as Candidate for Deletion. I'm moe and I know it 09:31, April 27, 2012 (UTC)



  • If it's LC trademark then why don't you put it in LC page? It will be more suitable. The next thing we know, there will be an article about Haqua scythe, Docrow atificial body or Keima's wig.I'm moe and I know it 10:03, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

As for deleting the TNT account, I would say no, because the main discussion thread is using that account LOL. As for the broom, move it to LC's pade indeed. I was just busy, not thinking, and laced it into the squad equipment out of nonsensibility LOL GreenMoriyama (talk) 21:51, April 27, 2012 (UTC)


Late comment again... @M.Boss, hey why will I be sad , it's fine really. {{Unsigned|Viciou

New main discussion thread.

Please consider delete the old one. http://kaminomi.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TNT82/General_Discussion#comm-14679

I'm moe and I know it 16:23, April 28, 2012 (UTC)


1.) That's the blog I've recently created. Spams and off-topic stuff kept popping out of every message wall. What's wrong with letting people just spam at the spam place ?

2.) You are not moe, TNT.

3.) THIS IS NOT OLD !

~~Ultimate Lune-fan~~


TNT, that was created a few moments ago..... -AGENT M !

Message Walls are meant to be off-topic: They were built that way, and you can't change that part of it. If you want on-topic editor-to-editor discussion, I suggest you start a topic about reverting back to Talk Pages. And a new page is fine, but don't have the word "spam" in it. It's not for spam, because spam is usually automated. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

Vintage page (Unresolved)

http://kaminomi.wikia.com/wiki/Vintage

Why this page have a "Location" category? Nadeko-chan!!!!!!!! 17:45, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

It's because the "Location Infobox" has been used in the page (it auto-adds the category Location to the page). Not sure what I can do about it though, especially since the "Tall Rock" is technically the Hideout... ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~

Name for Arcs (Discussed and Reolved)

After a look on Story Arcs page, i've noticed that some arcs are just named after their characters, such as Haqua Arc, Minami Ikoma Arc, and it goes on, after talking a bit with Demise, she suggested me to create a poll. So, Haqua Arc, Yukie Marui Arc, Tsukiyo Kujyō Arc, Minami Ikoma Arc, Chihiro Kosaka Arc and Kusunoki Kasuga Arc should be renamed or not? If you support the idea, please submit a name for the arc and as well, a reason(if possible) together with your signature. Suggested changes:
Haqua Arc - District Chief Arc
Yukie Marui Arc - Gokult Conquest Arc
Tsukiyo Kujyō Arc - Moon Child Arc
Minami Ikoma Arc - Swimmer Girl Arc
Chihiro Kosaka Arc - ???
Kusonoki Kasuga Arc - ???

~W - Nothing better than a wall to Wwall


Should Arcs be given a proper name?
 
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The poll was created at 03:28 on February 23, 2013, and so far 5 people voted.
~Time Limit of 3 weeks - Poll ended on draw - Kudos to Sh1ba's reply

Support

  • Well, since its my suggestion, i should be supporting it. Arcs should have a name aside from their main characters, since i think it sounds rather dumb. Lets see how things goes on.

Kusonoki Kasuga Arc - Samurai Girl Arc

~W - Nothing better than a wall to Wwall

Neutral

  • If I recall, this was apparently a project made by TNT and was approved by Admin Green in about 2011/2012.  However, the project status seems to be halted due to many reasons. Anyways, I think it's best to discuss this matter with Green and TNT since it's more of their jurisdiction on Story Arcs Project. TNT is somewhat dead here so the best bet here is to ask his helper or this guy. He apparently is able to reach out to him. Nevertheless, I won't really mind if the arc changes or not. (Lunetic@Feb23,2013)

Oppose

  • I want the entire Story Arc to be demolished. So I will oppose to any kind of revamp ideas for it. Chii-chan (talk) 15:23, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
  • Unless there are official names for the story arcs (names bestowed by the author himself), then I must go against this idea. Otherwise, what you are thinking of doing is taking the works of the author and collectively giving them names of your own choosing. From what I've understood, leaving the arcs named after their heroines is simply for the sake of clarification. Sh1ba (talk) 16:22, February 23, 2013 (UTC)


Templates Update (Discussed)

Lately i've been doing changes on templates, first, i done the Vintage template on my own, the changes were mainly on colors and proper division of its members(Old template). This time i've edited Buddy Navigation and Hell Character Navigation templates. I've moved the demons from characters box template to the runaway navagation, so i would like your opinion on it, while on hell navigation, high rank division was removed and demons were split on old and new demons. On both templates the "View" and "Edit" this template were added. I will try to find a better color scheme for Vintage template, since it's hard to read "Vintage" and "show" is invisible(or dye it). Please submit your vote together with the reason behind it and signature, and a suggestion if possible.
Changes:
Hell
Buddy(Runaway)
Vintage
Music
Character Box

~W - Nothing better than a wall to Wwall
PS: The only con is that they all share the same model now.
Mind that colors can always be changed.


Do you agree on templates update?
 
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The poll was created at 00:17 on March 8, 2013, and so far 6 people voted.
~Time Limit of 3 weeks

Support

  • So long as the template looks more organized, I have no qualms against it. (LuneM@ster) (March 9, 16:20 GMT+8)
  • It look good. I hope you will do the same with the music template. Iri Flina (talk) 16:57, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Neutral

  • OK.... Miki Hoshii 16:44, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose


Chapter 222 — Owner of a LONELY HEART — cover page (Discussed and Resolved)

As previously mentioned to GreenMoriyama, the cover of chapter 222 seems like it would be this instead of this, taking into account that the manga logo and the chapter title are both in the former link. I realize that I'm being annoyingly meticulous about this (if I can do something about it, I would), so I would just like to know if any editor wants the chapter cover to be the one with Keima+advertisement or the one with the manga chapter panels. If you care for it at all, please let me know. Otherwise, if not, then that's fine also.

Cover image:
 
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The poll was created at 04:48 on March 19, 2013, and so far 2 people voted.

Oh, and if you choose Keima+ad, please let me know if you wish for the raw version or the translated version. Good day.


UPDATE: I think I've let this minor thing run its course, so I'll be changing the cover page.

  • Obviously you used the version with the chapter title and the TWGOK logo. And use the scanlated version. It's cleaned for a reason. (LuneM@ster)

Dokuro vs. Dokurou (Discussed)

Minor thing here. I've been thinking about changing all the "Dokuro" spellings into "Dokurou" since the latter is what Red Hawk uses. Anybody else agree? I'm only asking because if we use both spellings of the name in the articles, some readers might get confused.

Support

Agree, i was doing that myself, but i got busy with tests so i couldn't be making edits for the time being.
~W - Nothing better than a wall to Wwall
since this is about dokuro, should we merge both? I mean create a tab on Dokuro's page about her human counterpart

  • We'll have to talk to the admins for stuff like that, probably. It'll be a pretty big change, so it's really up to them.

Oppose

Technically speaking, its actually spelled as "Dokuō" but RHS used it as "Dokurou" because "ou" and "ō" are interchangeable. However, this big change is kinda pointless since it won;t really affect much of the storyline itself because "Dokuro", "Dokurou" or "Dokurō" are all correct terms.

As for her human counterpart, I plan to merge it together with the old post (LuneM@ster, 12:19pm GMT+8)


Affiliation with the Noblesse Wiki

I have been recently contacted about an affiliation opportunity with the Noblesse wiki. Because I believe there is a problem with affiliation with the wiki, I've decided to make a forum about it. Please vote here. ~ Demise101 ♥ Lets Talk! ♥ ~ 01:26, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Support

Neutral

Oppose

Discussion

While I don't mind affiliating, I'm not for it either. I'm remaining neutral for the reason. GreenMoriyama (talk) 05:04, March 13, 2014 (UTC)



Chapter cover

Looking at chapter pages I noticed that sometimes, inside the picture box, there is a scan from RHS and sometimes a scan from the japanese volume. I'm personally against the use of edited or translated scans because they aren't the "real thing", and in fact most of the other wikis related to manga use volume scans or the RAWs from the magazine. If no one is against this, I can upload all the RAW scans we need (most from volumes, others from magazine when they are better, like color pages) and replace all the ones from RHS with those. --Dei92 (talk) 13:14, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Support

Neutral

Oppose

Discussion


Romanization and Translation

Again, looking here and there I've spotted some discrepancies with the romanization from Japanese. For example, according to the Revised Hepburn romanization rules, shouldn't "Hajimete koi wo shita kioku" be "Hajimete koi o shita kioku"? And why is Tsukiyo's surname Kujyo instead of Kujo?

Regarding the translation of japanese titles into english, there are many episodes whose original title is the same as the chapter but their english titles are different. Shouldn't we choose one for both? --Dei92 (talk) 13:14, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion

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